Nan also did not take
body mechanics; she took swimming and therefore did not need more gym credits.
2) On what it means to be a Mount Holyoke woman, Ray said that his
wife had a set of values which he accredited to her family and also to Mount
Holyoke. When they first met, on a blind date, he said that he was attracted
to her physically but also as a life partner who shared his moral beliefs.
He mentioned sensitivity, caring for family and friends, commitment to task,
and need to be the best. He must have been very impressed with those "core"
Mount Holyoke nurtured values because he proposed to her on their first date!
Jane also added that the commitment to volunteerism was essentially created
at Mount Holyoke. Nan said that, "Mount Holyoke helped me develop an
overdeveloped sense of responsibility." She went on to say that, "Mount
Holyoke sits on my shoulder as my conscious." In agreement with this
idea, Ray composed the analogy of "Jiminy Cricket" from Pinocchio.
She also added that Mount Holyoke left her with the sense, "that I could
do anything."
3) On Political Affiliation then and now, all three concurred that
the school was primarily Republican. Nancy pointed out the fact that, "The
really strong thinking Democrats were Jewish girls."
4) On Religion at Mount Holyoke, all three interviewees concurred that
the school was mostly Protestant, with small Catholic and Jewish populations.
When asked whether there were any distinctions based on religion in terms
of friendships and social groups, all three interviewees were in emphatic
agreement that religion, "just was not an issue!" Jane remembered
that in her group of friends there was a Jewish, Catholic, and Agnostic girl
and that the reason for their friendship was based on the fact that they were
all science majors. When we probed further they insisted that it was not an
issue.
They did remember that Chapel was required, but all the various religious
denominations were represented at services.
On the diversity at Mount Holyoke, Nancy said that "there were girls
at the school who could barely squeak in the door and others who could have
paid other people's tuition several times over and not have missed it!"
She went on to say that there was no way of distinguishing between the girls,
and that even if you wanted to tell the difference it wasn't possible. Moreover,
no one was thinking about the socioeconomic background of their classmates;
it simply was not an issue.
5) When asked about financial aid and work study in dining, both Jane
and Nancy gave blank looks. Slowly, they recalled that there were some women
who served food as part of their work study, but both of them emphasized that
everyone helped out. Therefore, as Jane said, since everyone helped with dining
responsibilities there was no way of distinguishing who was doing work as
part of their general responsibility and who was doing it as part of their
financial aid. The theme of our discussion on financial aid was well summarized
by Jane's quote, "No, no no! We did not talk about financial aid!"
6) When asked about their overall opinion about racial issues while
at Mount Holyoke, all three agreed that, like the other types of diversity
race was not an issue. The reason that race was not an issue was that there
were very few ethnic and racial minority students on campus. Both Nancy and
Jane could recall the name of every Black student who had been at Mount Holyoke
within three years prior to and after 1955. This is mainly because there was
only one student per year. They mentioned that the Black student in their
year was very active in student government, popular and "well liked."
Again, her race was not a deciding factor in her social status at Mount Holyoke.
Ray had a similar experience during his undergraduate years at Harvard, which
ended in 1948. Nancy added that since it was a time of The Korean War, people
really had to come together and forget about their differences. Nancy believed,
and the other interviewees agreed that this process of cooperation had begun
with World War II and that racial segregation was not an issue because, "it
was just the time." Nancy added that when Kennedy enacted Civil Rights
legislation, he was simply making it official.
7) When we asked about diversity of sexual orientation on campus, they
were quick to respond with the following statement, "It just was not
an issue!" Nancy was aware of a student couple and Jane remembered that
there were a few faculty who were gay, but she could not remember any of the
details. Jane emphasized that she stayed away from that topic of conversation,
and avoided knowledge of the intimate lives of, "those people."
Nancy had a similar experience, she was aware of one student couple on campus
their relationship was not an issue on campus because, "ninety percent"
of MHC students were not aware of its true nature. She then corrected herself
by saying that it was actually "ninety five percent." Nancy mentioned
that her daughter, class of "81 did not appreciate the pushy lesbian
students who were very active on campus at that time. When we asked Nancy
and Jane whether they had noticed the lesbian identity of current Mount Holyoke
students, "any girls holding hands" etc. They both replied that
they were not aware of any such behavior. Jane added that, she did not, "look
for it!"
8) We concluded at interviewers that there had been many changes between
the Mount Holyoke of today and the Mount Holyoke of the 1950s. We asked whether
they were happy about the changes that had taken place. Ray was the person
who spoke about this the most; since the world has changed he thought that
Mount Holyoke needed to change in order to accommodate the changes in society.
Change, he said, is necessary in order to maintain a successful institution.
Nancy and Jane were in agreement with these ideas, nodding responsively as
he spoke. However, Jane mentioned that she felt it was a shame that there
were no longer any all men's colleges as men deserve a choice as well when
picking an institution of higher education. This sparked a debate between
Ray and Nancy, since Ray feels that since women still face obstacles in today's
society it is necessary that they be admitted to institutions of higher learning
which used to be all male. He later pointed out that at Harvard Business and
Law Schools, at which he is a professor emeritus female graduate students
surpass their male peers in the quality of their work.
9) We reminded them that the class of 1955 approached our class for
the purposes of a collective interview because they were interested in leaving
a legacy at the college; we asked what a "legacy" means to them.
Nancy told us that she felt her degree from Mount Holyoke was a passport to
the rest of the world, and she felt that it was her duty to show where this
passport had taken her by documenting this exchange between current students
and alumnae.