Group 1B Interview Synopsis
Group Members:
Ms. (Prof) Jane A. Barth '55
Mrs. Nancy "Nan" Leech" Mohr '55
Mr. (Prof) Ray Goldberg
Saleha Chaudhry '05
Margareta Casanave '05
1) On "Body Mechanics" Jane said: she didn't remember body mechanics class because she did a life saving course, and was active in athletics therefore didn't have to take it. After some thought she remembered that there might have been a "Body Mechanics" course for non athletes to gain physical education credit.

Nan also did not take body mechanics; she took swimming and therefore did not need more gym credits.

2) On what it means to be a Mount Holyoke woman, Ray said that his wife had a set of values which he accredited to her family and also to Mount Holyoke. When they first met, on a blind date, he said that he was attracted to her physically but also as a life partner who shared his moral beliefs. He mentioned sensitivity, caring for family and friends, commitment to task, and need to be the best. He must have been very impressed with those "core" Mount Holyoke nurtured values because he proposed to her on their first date! Jane also added that the commitment to volunteerism was essentially created at Mount Holyoke. Nan said that, "Mount Holyoke helped me develop an overdeveloped sense of responsibility." She went on to say that, "Mount Holyoke sits on my shoulder as my conscious." In agreement with this idea, Ray composed the analogy of "Jiminy Cricket" from Pinocchio. She also added that Mount Holyoke left her with the sense, "that I could do anything."

3) On Political Affiliation then and now, all three concurred that the school was primarily Republican. Nancy pointed out the fact that, "The really strong thinking Democrats were Jewish girls."

4) On Religion at Mount Holyoke, all three interviewees concurred that the school was mostly Protestant, with small Catholic and Jewish populations. When asked whether there were any distinctions based on religion in terms of friendships and social groups, all three interviewees were in emphatic agreement that religion, "just was not an issue!" Jane remembered that in her group of friends there was a Jewish, Catholic, and Agnostic girl and that the reason for their friendship was based on the fact that they were all science majors. When we probed further they insisted that it was not an issue.
They did remember that Chapel was required, but all the various religious denominations were represented at services.
On the diversity at Mount Holyoke, Nancy said that "there were girls at the school who could barely squeak in the door and others who could have paid other people's tuition several times over and not have missed it!" She went on to say that there was no way of distinguishing between the girls, and that even if you wanted to tell the difference it wasn't possible. Moreover, no one was thinking about the socioeconomic background of their classmates; it simply was not an issue.

5) When asked about financial aid and work study in dining, both Jane and Nancy gave blank looks. Slowly, they recalled that there were some women who served food as part of their work study, but both of them emphasized that everyone helped out. Therefore, as Jane said, since everyone helped with dining responsibilities there was no way of distinguishing who was doing work as part of their general responsibility and who was doing it as part of their financial aid. The theme of our discussion on financial aid was well summarized by Jane's quote, "No, no no! We did not talk about financial aid!"

6) When asked about their overall opinion about racial issues while at Mount Holyoke, all three agreed that, like the other types of diversity race was not an issue. The reason that race was not an issue was that there were very few ethnic and racial minority students on campus. Both Nancy and Jane could recall the name of every Black student who had been at Mount Holyoke within three years prior to and after 1955. This is mainly because there was only one student per year. They mentioned that the Black student in their year was very active in student government, popular and "well liked." Again, her race was not a deciding factor in her social status at Mount Holyoke. Ray had a similar experience during his undergraduate years at Harvard, which ended in 1948. Nancy added that since it was a time of The Korean War, people really had to come together and forget about their differences. Nancy believed, and the other interviewees agreed that this process of cooperation had begun with World War II and that racial segregation was not an issue because, "it was just the time." Nancy added that when Kennedy enacted Civil Rights legislation, he was simply making it official.

7) When we asked about diversity of sexual orientation on campus, they were quick to respond with the following statement, "It just was not an issue!" Nancy was aware of a student couple and Jane remembered that there were a few faculty who were gay, but she could not remember any of the details. Jane emphasized that she stayed away from that topic of conversation, and avoided knowledge of the intimate lives of, "those people." Nancy had a similar experience, she was aware of one student couple on campus their relationship was not an issue on campus because, "ninety percent" of MHC students were not aware of its true nature. She then corrected herself by saying that it was actually "ninety five percent." Nancy mentioned that her daughter, class of "81 did not appreciate the pushy lesbian students who were very active on campus at that time. When we asked Nancy and Jane whether they had noticed the lesbian identity of current Mount Holyoke students, "any girls holding hands" etc. They both replied that they were not aware of any such behavior. Jane added that, she did not, "look for it!"

8) We concluded at interviewers that there had been many changes between the Mount Holyoke of today and the Mount Holyoke of the 1950s. We asked whether they were happy about the changes that had taken place. Ray was the person who spoke about this the most; since the world has changed he thought that Mount Holyoke needed to change in order to accommodate the changes in society. Change, he said, is necessary in order to maintain a successful institution. Nancy and Jane were in agreement with these ideas, nodding responsively as he spoke. However, Jane mentioned that she felt it was a shame that there were no longer any all men's colleges as men deserve a choice as well when picking an institution of higher education. This sparked a debate between Ray and Nancy, since Ray feels that since women still face obstacles in today's society it is necessary that they be admitted to institutions of higher learning which used to be all male. He later pointed out that at Harvard Business and Law Schools, at which he is a professor emeritus female graduate students surpass their male peers in the quality of their work.

9) We reminded them that the class of 1955 approached our class for the purposes of a collective interview because they were interested in leaving a legacy at the college; we asked what a "legacy" means to them. Nancy told us that she felt her degree from Mount Holyoke was a passport to the rest of the world, and she felt that it was her duty to show where this passport had taken her by documenting this exchange between current students and alumnae.