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A Historian in the Theatre: A Conversation with Daniel Czitrom

Daniel Czitrom at the eleventh-century ruins of the historic abbey in Dunfermline, Scotland

Among the offerings at the 2003 Edinburgh Fringe Festival--the largest arts festival in the world--was Red Bessie, a play cowritten by history professor Daniel Czitrom and Sarasota-based playwright Jack Gilhooley.
The play, a historical drama with original and period songs, follows the lives of two American Communists between the radical idealism of the 1930s and the anti-Communist repression of the 1950s. Red Bessie ran for 25 performances in August, receiving glowing reviews from critics and an enthusiastic response from audiences. In the September 5 issue of the Times Literary Supplement, critic Keith Miller described Red Bessie as "clearheaded and humane, not unaware of the hurt that political idealism can cause, and more fun than might be expected of such a high-minded project." Writing in the London magazine Three Weeks, Ron Nissin called it "a brilliantly illuminating, frequently hilarious p
olitical show." The CSJ recently spoke to Czitrom about the play and how a historian finds his way into theatre.

Is Red Bessie your first play?
It’s my second, and both have been collaborations with Jack Gilhooley, an alum of the New Dramatists in New York and a widely produced playwright. In 1992, the MHC theatre department produced our first play, Big Tim and Fanny, here at the Rooke Theatre. That play grew out of work I had published on "Big Tim" Sullivan, a larger-than-life Tammany Hall politician who was very influential in turn-of-the-century New York City. As a historian, one is bound by certain rules of evidence, but of course there are often large gaps in the historical record. That was the case with Sullivan—there are not a lot of written sources about him. Writing the article, I kept thinking, "There are a lot more here but I can’t do it as straight history." So, I put an ad in the Village Voice that literally read, "Historian Seeks Playwright." I received several responses and found that Jack was the collaborator I had been searching for. Big Tim and Fanny explores the political relationship between Sullivan and Mount Holyoke’s own Frances ("Fanny") Perkins. Perkins, at that time, was a young reformer who made common cause with Big Tim in the wake of the disastrous 1911 Triangle Fire.


Lauren Wood and John Barron, who performed Red Bessie at the 2003 Edinburgh Fringe Festival

What inspired the creation of Red Bessie?
I have deep family connections to the Abraham Lincoln Brigade, the roughly 3,000 American men and women who traveled illegally to Spain in the late 1930s to fight fascism and defend the Spanish Republic. My mother’s brother was killed there, and my father had two cousins as well, one of whom also died there. Some years ago my father’s sister gave me a bunch of letters that their cousins, Joe and Leo Gordon, had written her from Spain. I eventually published these, with an introduction, in the Massachusetts Review. My goal was to explore their motives for going to Spain, to humanize these very dedicated, idealistic, and ultimately doomed radicals. I found that their experiences in their neighborhood, their family, their union organizing, and other political activism before they went to Spain were far more crucial for understanding them than anything else. I was also struck by the dramatic potential of their story. Jack Gilhooley had the original idea of using the letters and their story as a starting point for a play.

Red Bessie handbill

What is the play about?
There are two characters and two acts. Act I is set in 1938 at an event that is both a fundraiser for the Abraham Lincoln Brigade and a memorial for Leo Gordon, who has died in Spain. We created the character of Bessie Markowitz, a radical folksinger and Leo’s cousin. At the memorial, Bessie reads letters from Leo, the actual ones he wrote to my aunt. So we make use of historical materials—events, letters, and songs. The other character is Martin Franklin, Bessie’s brand-new guitarist, who is very different from her. Martin is a Yale grad, soft-spoken, and a pacifist, in stark contrast to Bessie, a brash, confident, dedicated Communist. The first act brings Bessie and Martin together for the first time. The key dramatic subtext of the first act, which is also based on fact, is that Leo has left his pregnant wife to go to Spain.

The play is not a romantic celebration of 1930s radicalism—and I think reviewers and audiences picked up on this. There’s a lot of questioning. For example, what does it mean when you put political idealism before your family? The second act takes place in 1953, on the eve of the execution of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, who were convicted of conspiracy to give atomic secrets to the Soviet Union. Martin and Bessie are now married and have kids. They’re still folksingers who have been fighting the good fight and rallying the troops for years. Of course, now anticommunism is the dominant theme in American politics. And here’s this couple who, 15 years ago, were so much more optimistic and felt like they had a place in American political life. The second act is about what happens to political idealism, as the two struggle both with blacklisting and the revelations of atrocities in the Soviet Union under Stalin. Communists all over the world began questioning their loyalty to the party that had shaped their lives. So the second act is more wistful, more elegiac. But the humor and singing are there as well.

How do you translate what you do as a scholar to creating public entertainment?
History is an act of imagination. You’ve got to try to re-create an event, a milieu, or a person’s life or whatever you are working on, using whatever sources you can find. But I think the best historical writing goes beyond that to interpreting and ascribing meaning to events, and to bringing people alive, so that the reader can understand the choices people faced at a particular time. There is a creative aspect to history, especially when the gaps in the sources require greater speculation. And since historians are bound by rules of evidence, I find that historical drama offers an alternate way to represent the past and to try to find historical truths.

What was it like staging Red Bessie at the Fringe?
Firstly, I want to thank the College and the faculty grants committee, which helped us enormously by putting up some money that we needed for registration and publicity at the Fringe. We are very grateful to them. As for the Fringe, we were really unprepared for the enormity of it all—the opening-day parade along Edinburgh’s Royal Mile attracted about 150,000 people. There were hundreds of productions going on, about 80 percent of which were comedies. The best way I can describe the Fringe scene is to liken it to a Mickey Rooney/Judy Garland movie on acid—thousands of young people all giving out flyers to each other for their shows. Everybody’s in show business.


A lot of productions had Web sites touting their shows, and many of the UK people were over there promoting in advance. We, on the other hand, arrived with our two actors, Lauren Wood and John Barron, our stage manager, Naomi Miller, and our minimal set. The biggest problem we had, the biggest problem everyone had at the Fringe, was attracting audiences because there were so many shows. That made the positive critical response even more heartening.

Do you have future plans for the play?
We would love to have a production in the States and we are pursuing several possibilities—but developing new work in the American theatre is extremely difficult. There are fewer and fewer venues, fewer producers willing to take chances, fewer regional theatres willing to do something new instead of yet another Neil Simon play. And let’s face it, the whole nonprofit world is struggling right now. We’re committed to trying to get another production, but it may take a while. We’ve really been encouraged by the reviews—not just the critics, but also the audience reviews. The Fringe has a Web site where audience members can post their own reviews. And that’s great, because a lot of times a critic will write a review and ignore the audience response.

What is it like to see your work come to life on the stage?
The most creative aspect is the work of moving from the page to the stage. That process by which actors and directors interpret what the words mean and try to connect emotions and physical presence to what’s been written, that’s where the art is. The flip side is that after you see your play performed 25 times, all the weaknesses, all the jokes that fall flat, all the things that aren’t quite working become glaring. That’s painful, but it’s also part of the creative process. So we’ll be doing some revising. One of the lessons I’ve learned is how much serendipity is involved in theatre—in casting your performers, in who comes to see your play, in who reviews it. I find the collaborative work of theatre to be a refreshing alternative to the more solitary work of scholarship, and it involves very different rewards and challenges.

 

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