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Re: gender and race

Posted by Klara on October 9, 2001 at 19:53:36:

In Reply to: Re: gender and race posted by Bobbie on October 9, 2001 at 11:32:36:

if I were a guy, I'd be offended by your generalisation that men are more aggressive. Social constructs are "real" because we make them real. This is, in my opinion, the reason why men (as a group) exhibit more aggression. They are not biologically forced to behave that way. What about less aggressive guys? Do they have less male hormones? No, they have just been educated differently. Education and socialisation have greater impact than hormones.

: men and women are not the same, though. race may be completely made up because it doesn't really have anything to do with the fudnamental differences between people, but sex is real. don't you think that the fact that men have testosterone, which makes them more agressive and violent than women has some influence on how they behave and makes them different than women? what about all those years when men went around hunting in packs, while women stayed home and took care of the children? and i remember seeing a documentary that said that the fact that men can have children by multiple partners at the same time makes them behave differently than women. in other words i don't think sex is the same as race.

: : : I do not believe that differences between men and women are as important as we are led to believe. There are no real differences but only social ones.
: : : What does it mean for you to be a woman? I'm pretty sure that my idea of womanhood is quite different from yours, and they have little to do with certain physical traits that we might share.
: : : Gender is a social construct, just like race.

: : : : : I am having difficulties seperating gender from race, because scientifically there are differences between men and women. I don't feel that those differences interfere with one's capabilities as an individual, but maybe they should be celebrated or atleast acknowledged. I am led to believe that there are differences between men and women, but when I hear such things as women being more nurturing than men due to their inherent motherly instinct it bothers me b/c it incinuates that men are not nurturing. Also, all difference doesn't act as a dangerous mechanism, in which people will eventually dehumanize the other. For instance, if we all sought after one type of beauty, it would lead to a dull and homogenous society. Also, is that why we are here to learn how to kick corporate America's ass? I don't see Mount Holyoke as a place against men.

: : : : the way i see it, Mount Holyoke is not a place against men, but rather a place where women can empower ourselves to force others to acknowledge the fact that women are just as worthy of opportunities as men are.

: : You're right about gender being a social construct. I was actually thinking about that after I posted that followup. There are so many things that factor into sex, gender, womanhood, etc. that it is nearly impossible to define it. I basically meant the "socially acceptable" (whatever the heck that means) definition of woman and man....most likely biological. But even biology is not reliable now to define gender because of a whole other group of people (transgender). There are supposedly five genders now. The PC terms are endless...




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